Sunday, December 11, 2011

Do fundies realize the hurt and pain they cause others with their vicious rhetoric?

How many people will not come to Christ because they have been turned off by Christians? How many gay teens have committed suicide because their fundie parents/pastors have told them they are the scum of the earth and they must turn from the person God has made them? How many people become alcoholics trying to deal with demands on their life that are unrealistic for them, but put upon them by the so called Christians.



Do Christians take any responsibility for the vicious, vile and hateful rhetoric spewed from the pulpits on a regular basis as fact...when it is truly only their opinion or interpretation of scriptures.Do fundies realize the hurt and pain they cause others with their vicious rhetoric?
These people do not represent ALL Christians any more than you represent ALL of anyone else.



Have a nice day. :-)Do fundies realize the hurt and pain they cause others with their vicious rhetoric?
They just don't care. Jesus is going to come for them and the faster they wreck this world the faster they believe he will come.
Scare tactics and guilt trips only convert the weak and the dim. Anyone with any intelligence or moral fiber will be turned off by those tactics.
How many people have YOU caused hurt or pain from YOUR vicious rhetoric? It's easy to paint with a broad brush and convince everyone to look on others with disdain.
I *heart* you.

tell em the truth!!!



christianity is a faith, and fundies miss the point.
I'm sorry your were a bitter Gay teen.. but i havent heard the hateful rhetoric spewed from the pulpit.. and i do go to Church.. and no We were taught not to listen to those false prophets your referring to
No, of course not. Evidently, when you have Jesus on your side, thou canst do no wrong.
Do they take responsibility? No.



They will say that the people they hurt made their own choices and so it's too bad for them.
how many pe
Not all Christians are fundamentalists and many Christians have the same view of fundamentalism that you have
I think they operate on the ';ends justify the means'; philosophy and they really don't think they are doing anything wrong. They can't think beyond what they have been taught and see the rest of us as ';wrong';. Sad really...
Christians do not teach that homosexuals are the scum of the earth, but that they are loved by God and need to repent. Also, there is strong evidence for choice after a history of parental abuse/neglect being a causitive for homosexuality, and until only recently (1973? or so) the American Psychiatric Association listed homosexuality as a mental illness. Saying that, ';God made me this way'; is a cop-out. Do you really suppose God would make someone a certain way, then condemn them for how He made them? Preposterous! However, that is exactly what a lot of atheists I have seen posting in this forum seem to believe and is one of the reasons they reject God. Incidentally, you list this ';fundie baptist preacher'; as being one of us. I would have to correct any such foolish preaching.
Do athies realize how utterly stupid they make themselves look when they ask such humorous and, yet, assinine questions? Christians have nothing to do with any of the lost that you mention? As an obvious atheist, what the hell are you doing? Preaching????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL鈥?Imagine that!!!
Pure ego.

They would take credit for a person they saved, but if the message drives people away, it's because God hardened their hearts. It's the ultimate in scapegoating.
If God announced that wearing leather was wrong, how many people do you think would put on leather and then claim God was evil for putting down their lifestyle?

Or, better yet, if God announced that putting snails in your anus was wrong, how many would start that practice?



You cannot say that people who do evil are being turned away, and therefore we should not say that what they do is evil. Christ gave us the Gospel to spread it. He did not spare feelings when He was here. Sure, He was merciful, but He did not change the truth to spare feelings.



Note - I am not agreeing with any website, any rhetoric, or any language other than what I type here. I am not a baptist minister in Alabama, nor do I necessarily share that b@stard's beliefs.
If ';they'; are listening to the ';vicious, vile and hateful rhetoric spewed from the pulpits'; then they are attending a church and have some interest in the scriptures. I have never heard any preacher call anyone ';scum of the earth'; but I do agree with the scriptures. There is no reason to ';sugarcoat'; sin. Sin is what it is and those that die in their sins do not inherit eternal life. Some may call this my opinion but it is actually the scriptures doing the talking. The Bible condemns all sin, whether it is homosexuality, alcoholism or murder. The Bible and the Christians do not hate the individual, only the sin itself.



A Christian must give up worldly things such as alcohol, gambling etc if they are to live as Christ lived (the definition of a Christian.) If they are listening to a sermon, then they are taking the first step towards repentence and salvation.
unfortunately not all Christians are good people.it even warns us in the bible about such things.your absolutely correct that some do hurt others.i have been turned away from church because the preacher said i was not ordained and that really hurt my faith for a while.any christian that judges or condemns you in a harsh manor is not truly in Christ and is very much in need of saving themselves.i cant say i take responsibility for others actions just because im a christian.just like you cant take responsibility for internet child porn just because you surf the web.



*ok so i just went to that website and let me say that is one of the most disturbing things i have ever seen.trust me you wont find many christians that arent appouled by it.
Eh, the site you linked to in your additional details is a cult, not a Christian church. The word ';baptist'; doesn't really mean anything except that they baptize adults instead of infants. Any nut job can slap that title on a sign and call it a ';church.';
You do realize that sick family on the site you gave have been condemned by Christians. There are even groups of people who try to stop them. You are just as guilty of spewing hate as those disgusting people are, only you have succeeded in falsely accusing over 2 billion people. How proud you must be. I take responsibility for myself. Maybe you should try that too instead of inventing excuses and blaming others.



EDIT: Unfortunately these people are protected by freedom of religion, speech and the right to assemble. I honestly don't know what else we could do to stop them or anyone else that wants to spread hate. But people are trying by legal means to say that this is not what Jesus taught. I believe in a God that loves everyone.



May God Bless you.
christians usually don't take responsibility for their fundies, yet expect the muslims to take responsibility for their fundies. sort of hypocritical, don't you think?



m. ghandi, a man of peace and human rights, once said ';the only thing wrong with christianity is christians';. did he have it only half right?



seek spirituality on your own. be good to you. don't let christians ruin your life with your god. christians claim god gave freedom of choice to man. don't let some christian's version of religion take that freedom away from you.
If you are not an atheist or if you have been paying attention , you will see the that the Christians on r%26amp;s are no where near as viscious as the atheists .I have even read where some atheist said her favorite thing to do is come on r%26amp;s and insult christians. Go down each list of questions and count how many are viscousness and mocking and snide aimed at christians. If christia is a christian then I'm elvis presley. nice try.
What ';vicious rhetoric'; and who exactly has used it? Or as one of your own put it:



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